John K

Thursday, May 18, 2006

WS and TSE

When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state,
And trouble deaf Heaven with my bootless cries,
And look upon myself, and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featur'd like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art, and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least:
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee,--and then my state
(Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth) sings hymns at heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings'.

-- William Shakespeare, Sonnet 29


Because I do not hope to turn again
Because I do not hope
Because I do not hope to turn
Desiring this man's gift and that man's scope
I no longer strive to strive towards such things
(Why should the aged eagle stretch its wings?)
Why should I mourn
The vanished power of the usual reign?

Because I do not hope to know again
The infirm glory of the positive hour
Because I do not think
Because I know I shall not know
The one veritable transitory power
Because I cannot drink
There, where trees flower, and springs flow, for there is nothing again

Because I know that time is always time
And place is always and only place
And what is actual is actual only for one time
And only for one place
I rejoice that things are as they are and
I renounce the blessed face
And renounce the voice
Because I cannot hope to turn again
Consequently I rejoice, having to construct something
Upon which to rejoice

And pray to God to have mercy upon us
And pray that I may forget
These matters that with myself I too much discuss
Too much explain
Because I do not hope to turn again
Let these words answer
For what is done, not to be done again
May the judgement not be too heavy upon us

Because these wings are no longer wings to fly
But merely vans to beat the air
The air which is now thoroughly small and dry
Smaller and dryer than the will
Teach us to care and not to care
Teach us to sit still.

Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death
Pray for us now and at the hour of our death.

-- T.S. Eliot, Ash Wednesday I

4 Comments:

  • Thanks for the juxtaposition. I'd never put those two pieces together, though I have admired them both since I read them in college. It's interesting for me to note here that Eliot's verse contains so much more subjective (inner landscape) philosophical despair. Whereas Shakespeare's is almost entirely objective, external, pragmatic and empirical. In thus resides the difference between Modern man and his predecessors.

    By Blogger Christopher, At 11:30 AM  

  • TSE is rather "post-modern" in that way. He could almost freeze the progression of civilization and use it as a template for his poetry. I think he once said something like "a poet won't survive beyond the age of 25 without acquiring an historical sense". His poetry has this timeless character, exactly because he understood and absorbed his predecessors. It's a kind of of "deconstruction" of the past... cf. "history is a pattern of timeless moments" etc.

    By Blogger johnk, At 1:37 PM  

  • I've always contended that post-modern is just the death throes of modernity

    By Blogger Christopher, At 7:19 AM  

  • Ha ha! Yes, I agree. My point was awkwardly expressed. I found the quote I was thinking of in his fantastic essay "Tradition and the Individual Talent", making the point much better than I ever could. Why don't I make another post of it... Cheers, John.

    By Blogger johnk, At 7:36 PM  

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